This week we talk about bass guitar recording and in the Rapid Fire section we talk about: mic and instrument cables; fav VI for drums and instruments; last thing we realized we didn’t know enough about.
This week we have Dezz Assante from TechMuze Academy.
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For all the people using sonar….Try Pro Tools or Cubase…and then try reaper… Keep up the good work HRS…you ROCK!
Hi Guys, thanks for the awesome segment on recording bass, especially on the different ways to play it. I have an Ibanez GIO bass that’s missing a couple of saddle screws I bought used at guitar center for less than $80. I’m not a bass player but I’m forced to play it in my recordings since I don’t know anyone in my neighborhood that does.
Even though I have sub-standard gear at the moment, all these tips will help me improve on playing and recording bass. As soon as I get a decent replacement bass guitar and sell this old one I will surely donate a portion of the proceeds to HRS.
Long live HRS!
I want to comment on the replacing capacitors continuing thread…As an Electrical engineering student in college(the comment was correct) find the value the gets you the required sound you are looking for- and then play with different brand capacitors of the same value…
This brings you to the racecar driver analogy..5 different drivers will all drive the car, but all of them will drive the car a little bit differently from each other…all go around the circle, but some bank high, some bank low, some go fast, and some go slow…This apply’s to the difference with capacitors…some do sound better on high end information, while others maybe better on low end information… You have to really , find the value you need,and then select caps from that value to select the sound you are ultimately looking to get!
over all, once you find a value that fits and sounds good.. the difference will be splitting hairs…and As Jon and Ryan have talked about with the refernce to converters…you have to learn their sound over time, and notice what it brings to the sound…
Great show per usual, fellas. Anybody who can’t see that this show is solid gold, (insert biting retort here).
Here’s 2 donations, guys: one for me, one for other listeners who have developed acute sudden-onset carpal tunnel syndrome.
Now, back to the show.
-James
Greetings,
Love this show!
I have a question / segment idea. I’m a wanna-be DIYer and something I’m really not sure about is the best sequence of steps for mixing. For example, do you EQ each track, then set levels among tracks, then add effects? I pretty much tweak and fiddle randomly until I think it sounds ok but I’m thinking a more structured approach might help.
Thanks!
Dave
Thanks for the great show on bass recording. Liked everything I heard, and it gave me a couple ideas to try on my next bass recording.
Something I have seriously been considering for my bass rig and studio is a Tech 21 SansAmp RBI. It is basically the pedal in rack form, but with four outputs and would be perfect for live and studio use as you have both clean and dirty DI outs in one box, as well as the ability to run a cab at the same time (or two with a stereo cab and amp). This, or the pedal SansAmp, are a great choice for home recorders (recordists?), as a bass amp can not only suffer from an untreated room, but will rattle every bloody thing in it. My friends closet doors resonate on an F#.
I wanted to mention that I really like your mic choices. A great deal of people assume that their best choice is going to be what they stick in a kick drum. Not wrong, but not always the best choice to throw a D112 (cough), in front of the cab. Recently recorded a stand up bass with a Cad Trion 8000 and it is now my go to mic for any bass instrument. Reaches down really low, very flat in the bass range, and can take 143db.
@Dave for mixing advice, if you don’t mind spending a couple bucks I recently started watching the videos at Groove3. They have a couple mixing videos at about two hours each, plus a bunch of other useful videos. They charge something like $30 to order videos, but offer a monthly unlimited subscription for the same price as one set of videos. I signed up and am going to cancel after I have watched all of the ones that interest me (some of the videos a next to useless), but it is really worth checking out.
Anyway, keep up the great work.
Your eagle eared listener,
Dan
Thanks again for the list. I now have a pretty extensive backlog of podcast to listen to while grinding it out at my real job.
On a side note, the “change your information” link doesn’t seem to work.
HATERS GON’A HATE
I like your show, very interesting. Your format works well. On DI bass I usually use podfarm with the Sans Amp/ Eden Emulation. But for some nice grit the free TSE808 overdrive plug in adds just the right level of distortion for me.
Jon,
Ill take your Maple and Swamp ash bass and raise you my go to session bass. A 1982 Peavey T-40 that is Maple on ASH! I mean this thing feels like you are picking up a coffee table to play it is so heavy!
But to the point, because of this heft, and some incredibly flexible electronics, the tones from this monster REALLY fit exactly in the mix, exactly where I want them.
And to the point about DI/Amp, etc on bass, I find that as a Worship FOH engineer, it’s easier to DI basses even for church services. I use the 1176 VCA effect unit on my Yamaha DM2k at 10 and 2 with slight “to taste” channel EQ after the inserted compressor, to be almost perfect tone both in recordings and live with great bassists.
Great useful content in the shows lately guys! I have been eating it up on long drives between jobs!
Thanks!
Jason from Kentucky.
Grabbing my bass now (which I play horribly) Ryan, can’t thank you enough for taking time to do the cable mod video, will be hitting the electronics store soon! Another donation on its way!
Ha ha love the Sonar chat. You guy’s are all seeing, all knowing oracles right!!! You each have crystal balls 😉
All i can say is whatever rocks your boat then use..
Even though Jon hates it, i use Logic and love it. But I have Protools, Reaper, Garageband (both osx and ipad) and Audacity… As the saying goes horses for courses… Use the tool that works for you and is best for the job.
Btw guy’s i wanna know why you never discuss the Harrison Mixbus DAW?
I mean it is a very very cool DAW and it even runs on Linux as well as Mac OSX. ( a WinDoze version is due out any day).. And only costs around $220…
http://www.harrisonconsole.com
So common guy’s. Discuss mixbus and I will send another donation. 🙂
Kiwi Steve
Ok just kidding. I think!!!
BTW.. that was http://www.harrisonconsoles.com with the “S” not what I put in the previous post..
Yeah Jon another Typo..
Nothings good without a good wood.
Ryan once your done with worldhunger can you please work on make a easy way to quit smoking, i’ll save a fortune (which i could use to donate more).
Jeezsuspeesus i know a lot about Bass now (at least until i forget again).
Hey guys. Great show. Really great information about recording bass.
Wow just noted that Harrison Mixbus is now only $149 on sale.. Hmm must get my copy…. LOL
Yeah I know Jon I am going on about it LOL Just ignore me!!!
Now what about Protools Pro X !!!
(hmm think Final Cut Pro X – Hmm Maybe not that was a bit of a disaster)
Hmm or Logic Pro X or Logic Studio X .. ..